""""bad""""" films you actually like

[Beancatte]

yeag. I'll start.


-The 90s Mario movie is good. People really got an insane sci-fi picture where the cast gave some great performances despite the fact they hated working on it. But its not like the games so into the bin it goes, apparently?

-Freddy Got Fingered is a wild as hell middle finger to Hollywood that is very obviously intentionally wasting all the money of the hollywood bigwigs who funded it for its an entire runtime. I'm mixed on Tom Green overall but I think that rules. Every actor here obviously got the direction of "okay but do a line read that is INCREDIBLY fucking weird instead"

-Alien 3's Assembly Cut elevates the film to my series favorite. It constantly detests the idea of "franchise" while exploring really interesting themes like faith at the end of space, redemption, and dealing with ones one death. Beautifully shot throughtout

[StarlightNecromancer]

Repo! The Genetic Opera is a film that is Very Much of its time, and to quote a video that was very critical of it "it's not that it doesn't have enough bones for a plot, it's that it has enough bones for 3 skeletons and you don't know which one goes to which". The music is amazing, Paris Hilton is in it for some reason, it's about revenge and loss and addiction and hopelessness, it's an utter mess that needed another pass before going to filming

The Guyver, specifically the 90s American Adaptation of the 80s Manga and OVA. It was TERRIBLE. Mark Hamill was in it for some reason, Sean was re-cast to David Hayter in the sequel who to this day would still be down to reprise the role. It's wild, it's pg-13 for some reason. It's great

[sutter]

The '90s Super Mario Bros movie rules. Something I like to point out whenever it's brought up is the gorgeous set design. The art director from Blade Runner did the production design for SMB and it shows. Underneath the Mario branding it's just a fun Verhoeven-ish sci-fi adventure for kids, and I feel like it works great as that.

[flatwood]

I'm a sucker for Troll 2.

It's just so charming.

[Beancatte]

The Troll 2 is so fucking fun and funny lmao. Love that film.

[Cayman]

WILD ZERO

One of my favorite B-movies of all time, it's an absurd romp about love, zombies, and ROCK N' ROLL!! Staring the actual garage rock band Guitar Wolf, it follows the young wannabe punk Ace as he discovers the true meaning of love and rock in the midst of a zombie apocalypse. One of the best low budget horror comedies out there, it has a dedicated cult following to this day. The American DVD re-release actually came with an insert with an official drinking game on it, if that's any indication of the movie's vibes.

[Mandrake]

If Super Mario Bros had simply been a Ghostbusters-inspired fantasy adventure about two working-class brothers from Brooklyn who travel into a parallel world that's populated with dinosaur people and ruled by a fascist dictator whom they ultimately overthrow, it wouldn't have taken so long for it to become a cult classic. Unfortunately, the fact it was attached to the Super Mario franchise and then got completely butchered in the editing suite meant that everyone was left confused by what they had seen.

Highly recommend seeking out either the Morton-Jankel Cut or the Lasagna Workprint. They both restore some critical scenes that were removed and improve the overall pacing by allowing the scenes to breathe. Plus Spike and Iggy's anti-establishment rap is quintessentially early-90s.

[Faith]

-Alien 3's Assembly Cut elevates the film to my series favorite. It constantly detests the idea of "franchise" while exploring really interesting themes like faith at the end of space, redemption, and dealing with ones one death. Beautifully shot throughtout

Ooh, a genuinely contentious take! I still deeply dislike how it completely negates Alien 2 so casually, but I’ll hand to you that it has a fully unique aesthetic to the franchise. Is that complete obliteration of its prequel stakes what you mean by detesting/deconstructing franchise concepts? I’m curious!

[Enbyeon]

I honestly enjoy the first Mortal Kombat movie and Street Fighter the Movie. I know both have gotten a better reputation in the past few years, but back in the day, people hated that shit.

[StarlightNecromancer]

I honestly enjoy the first Mortal Kombat movie and Street Fighter the Movie. I know both have gotten a better reputation in the past few years, but back in the day, people hated that shit.

Same, and its pretty wild seeing what's getting a second look and people going "you know, it wasn't actually that bad"

I wonder why that is

[Beancatte]

The Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat movie(especially) are really good solid little fight scene centric films. Mortal Kombat overall understood the value of that adaption so much it spent several years taking entire characterizations from it.

I think a sad side effect of peoples reactions to those films is that it feels like a lot of adaptions are kinda scared to even, ya know, *ADAPT* a lot of the time.

[vurrsys]

Hackers. I only got to watch the movie once before I stopped being able to watch it (it has a lot of flashing) but oh my gosh, what a stupid and fun movie. A movie that is so bold in its misunderstanding of how computers work that it loops back into being Fucking Awesome. I WISH hacking worked like this. Every character in this movie is probably queer but hasn't figured it out yet. The pinnacle of "tech-savvy queer leftist friend group". You need to watch this if you can handle flashing lights. HACK THE PLANET!!!

[Micolithe]

Lady in the Water is the funniest movie of 2006 and I will die on this hill, much like the movie critic that M Night Shyamalan had narrate his own death scene while it was happening.

[Beancatte]

-Alien 3's Assembly Cut elevates the film to my series favorite. It constantly detests the idea of "franchise" while exploring really interesting themes like faith at the end of space, redemption, and dealing with ones one death. Beautifully shot throughtout

Ooh, a genuinely contentious take! I still deeply dislike how it completely negates Alien 2 so casually, but I’ll hand to you that it has a fully unique aesthetic to the franchise. Is that complete obliteration of its prequel stakes what you mean by detesting/deconstructing franchise concepts? I’m curious!

Yeah its like, while i can understand why some dislike it due to it just kinda spitting on everything related to Aliens, I personally felt like a mix of exhaustion with the 20 script revisions and the mistreatment of several key people involved just meant they took a sledgehammer to absolutely everything out of spite... and that ended up making it a really interesting film to me.

[Fiendly]

Excellent topic! I have some deep cuts for any experienced bad movie aficionados to check out:

Love and a .45 - ridiculous crime drama that wants to be True Romance so bad it hurts. Co-stars Renée Zellweger and features a ton of incredible cameos for fans of odd cinema (Jeffrey Combs! Jack Nance! Wiley Wiggins! Peter Fonda!). Definitely bad, but my love for it is 100% sincere.

Deadfall (1993) - the directorial debut of Nic Cage's brother, who clearly cannot wrangle Nic at all in the single most over-the-top performance of his entire career. The plot makes no sense whatsoever and doesn't matter, just watch a group of eccentric con men do increasingly bizarre things for no discernible reason. Peter Fonda's in this one too!

Vampire's Kiss - Nic Cage running wild over a first-time director again. He's a big shot 80s guy who becomes convinced he's a vampire, and his gradual detachment from reality leads him to torment one of his subordinates with unreasonable demands.

The Mangler - adaptation of a Stephen King short story about an evil laundry folding machine, directed by Tobe Hooper and prominently featuring Freddy Krueger himself, Robert Englund. Surprisingly watchable!

[Toxmo]

funny because the 90s mario movie came up a couple days ago in a discord i'm in and we all turned out to be huge apologists for it. Bob Hoskins and Mojo Nixon and a sentient mould fungus network protagonist? hell yeah
Vampires Kiss is also really great. It kind of reminded me of American Psycho, but maybe more unhinged if that's possible.

to add,

Speed racer (2008) - feels weird to write this one in because i don't think it's bad in any circumstance but boy people hated it at the time at least

Rock & Rule (1983) - I looove this stupid movie, i love mok, i love the rad tattoo artist lady, I love Dizzy, I love the roller skating girl, I love that they slapped cow brains on a film strip to get a weird monster effect for the final act. It's not a good movie but I love so much in it. I don't love that a studio fire burned all the raw material of it destroying any and all chances of a HQ rerelease or OST

[DJAtomika]

Bunraku (2010), a martial arts film from 2010 that failed to live up to the expectations of critics, but possesses a cinematic style and fight choreography that are just simply memorable to me.

Plus when do you get to see J-rock musician Gackt in a film as a fist-fighting samurai?

[Faith]

-Alien 3's Assembly Cut elevates the film to my series favorite. It constantly detests the idea of "franchise" while exploring really interesting themes like faith at the end of space, redemption, and dealing with ones one death. Beautifully shot throughtout

Ooh, a genuinely contentious take! I still deeply dislike how it completely negates Alien 2 so casually, but I’ll hand to you that it has a fully unique aesthetic to the franchise. Is that complete obliteration of its prequel stakes what you mean by detesting/deconstructing franchise concepts? I’m curious!

Yeah its like, while i can understand why some dislike it due to it just kinda spitting on everything related to Aliens, I personally felt like a mix of exhaustion with the 20 script revisions and the mistreatment of several key people involved just meant they took a sledgehammer to absolutely everything out of spite... and that ended up making it a really interesting film to me.

Interesting! Admittedly, I have no knowledge of the production behind Alien 3 but that makes sense — that said, to an ordinary bystander, it definitely comes off abrasive in an unfun way. Crazy that it’s not the only Alien that does that either, since Covenant similarly blew up the stakes of Prometheus if memory serves me. I guess I’d need to give 3 a good-faith rewatch sometime to see if it improves with some additional knowledge!

[EpsilDelta]

I have a friend that regularly screens movies that were either on Red Letter Media's Best of the Worst, or movies of that same caliber. It's always an enjoyable time when in a room with a bunch of friends.

-Freddy Got Fingered

-Alien 3

Freddy is legitimately one of the funniest movies ever to me. The crassness being elevated so high to where being offended by any of this is an exercise in futility.

I wish we got a version of Alien 3 that had a more unified vision. There's a lot of interesting stuff going on in it!

[Beancatte]

I have a friend that regularly screens movies that were either on Red Letter Media's Best of the Worst, or movies of that same caliber. It's always an enjoyable time when in a room with a bunch of friends.

-Freddy Got Fingered

-Alien 3

Freddy is legitimately one of the funniest movies ever to me. The crassness being elevated so high to where being offended by any of this is an exercise in futility.

I wish we got a version of Alien 3 that had a more unified vision. There's a lot of interesting stuff going on in it!

Its a shame the director swore off anything Alien related because... i REALLY wanna see a cut that actually has his input for editing. I really like the Blu Ray version of the Assembly cut but it does drag a bit in places.

Also happy to see another Freddy enjoyer. Good ass film

[Bobinator]

Kung Pow: Enter The Fist. I am very aware that a lot of that movie did not age well, and even though I'm certain I could quote the entire thing from memory at this point, I'm well aware there's a lot of reasons I shouldn't. But there's some stuff in there that still makes me giggle like a child, and if that ever changes, I am most likely dead.

[FrDougal9000]

The one that immediately pops to mind is DOMINATOR. It's a 2003 film based on the Tony Luke/Alan Grant comic that debuted in A heavy metal magazine (not THE heavy metal magazine) and eventually wound up seeing serialization in a Kodansha mag of all things, about a demon god who uses the power of rock and roll to do battle with the forces of hell. It's a trashy as heck film, but what makes it legendary is its incredibly skungy animation - nearly all the models are uncanny whether they're standing still or moving, fight scenes consist largely of animation loops flying across the screen without really interacting with each other, and it looks pretty hideous.

But then it also seems to have been animated by only three people (including the director Tony Luke who'd been diagnosed with cancer during the film's production iirc), and the animation is so baffling that I've never been able to forget it. I really do admire its gusto, a bunch of folks scrambling to make a feature length animated film with nothing but the handful of computers they had and the fire of creation. There's no film that looks like this, and I love it for that.

[Beancatte]

The one that immediately pops to mind is DOMINATOR.

Oh the aesthetic here is FASCINATING. Its like if Reboot went fucking insane and also didnt make much progression beyond 1995. im a big fan of work you can FEEL the human hands on so i may have to give this a full watch.

I have a soft spot for Suburban Sasquatch because its such an obvious piece of outsider art that fails at basically everything it sets out to do so hard it wraps around into being a deeply entertaining watch.





DAVE!!!!!!!!!!!