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i want to hear what games u played that no one else has played!!!! especially pre like... steam era? if that makes sense?? stuff so niche it sold 5 physical copies at a gamestop in the middle of the US only or something LOL. u get my drift.

maybe this doesnt fall under extremely niche, but does anyone know the game kameo? i swear no one knows what im talking about when i bring it up!! it was originally developed for the n64 by rare, but development went on so long and changed so many hands and themes it ended up releasing on xbox360 in 2005 after they got acquired by microsoft

im surprised not many furries i talk to... have heard of this one? the whole point of it is kameo (elf in middle) can transform into different creatures that all do different things in a open world platformer. it is extremely tf coded. i guess not as popular cuz there is no obvious "furry" character?

this game had insane development lore,,, if u r looking for a deepdive theres a few videos on it floating around?!

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I played a lot of gamecube and ps2 games from the bargain bin, which ended up being a lot of RPGs that no one cared about so they got dropped off real quick.

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Lost Kingdoms was a game a sunk a lot of time into on the Gamecube. A kind of straightforward deckbuilder/dungeon crawler before that archetype was popular. It fell well under the radar, just another janky 2000s rpg but...wait, it was developed by Fromsoft?

Wait...Fromsoft used to make experimental RPGs? Oh, yes, they did!

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Forever Kingdom, know as Evergrace 2 in the east, was a janky but interesting action rpg with an interesting but brutal health and exploration system that encouraged risk but brought you down hard for straying off the intended path. It had some of the wildest music at the time, though.



I was surprised to see the remastered re-release of Grandia 1 and 2 a few years back; one of my favorite RPG series that I thought no one but me had played! It's a travesty that they ignored the third entry in the series, the brilliant Grandia 3 that perfected the battle system of the series and made a big leap towards being cinematic and tying the story together, but too little too late. Kingdom Hearts 2 overshadowed it easily. Still, check out this combat gameplay:



I'm halfway through a playthrough of Grandia 3, and honestly I should try streaming it again. My cat joined me for a VOD before :3

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SWZTCH wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:14 am this game had insane development lore,,, if u r looking for a deepdive theres a few videos on it floating around?!
I remember hearing about this game, but it was overshadowed by Beyond Good and Evil. By the time it came out everyone was calling it a copycat as I recall.
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Cayman wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:34 am I played a lot of gamecube and ps2 games from the bargain bin, which ended up being a lot of RPGs that no one cared about so they got dropped off real quick.

this is so interesting!!!! defo looking into lost kingdoms that is insane! ty for a interesting read :D
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Now I'm wondering if I should try to get Baten Kaitos on my gamecube emulator...or if that's one that's best left in the past.

Or I could find Phantom Brave for PS2 instead...
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SWZTCH wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:49 am
Cayman wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:34 am I played a lot of gamecube and ps2 games from the bargain bin, which ended up being a lot of RPGs that no one cared about so they got dropped off real quick.

this is so interesting!!!! defo looking into lost kingdoms that is insane! ty for a interesting read :D
Oh yeah Fromsoft made a lot of weirdass RPGs before finding the Souls formula. It's interesting playing their old games nowadays because you can find touches of what they'd later use for their blockbusters in these very mid-budget, janky games.
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Cayman wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:44 am By the time it came out everyone was calling it a copycat as I recall.
this is so interesting to me as well! i looked into beyond good and evil a little and i totally see the comparison... it does serve the same graphical style and gameplay from what i saw.

full transparency, i was 6 when kameo came out and ?14? when i played it to completion, but my actual shock when looking into the game last year or so and finding this footage of a nearly complete version of kameo on older nintendo consoles.

it was meant to be a creature-capture style game like pokemon originally, where you would capture the different creatures to turn into (vs. saving a "element of power" from enemies in the released game)


it makes me crazy that so much of the early development of this game is just lost to time (or maybe just to me? havent dug tooooo deep). imagine if someone managed to find a early version of it from that demo in the video or anything AGHHH.

i did some passive digging and found some concept art (idk how valid this source is but seems legit) at least that seems to include some stuff from the original game before it changed gears and may be freaking out just a little over it haha//

https://lparchive.org/Kameo-Elements-of-Power/3DModel/
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a kameo 2 was IN DEVELOPMENT but cancelled very quickly as well....
i know they will never bring it back but a girl can dream ig dramaqueen
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There's a couple of examples that often come to my mind when I think about my own gaming journey and feel like no one else took certain paths.

Outwars (1998) - a heavily Starship Troopers inspired (the film had come out the year before) action game, where the player completed missions in wide open levels as a sole space marine (or similar) against hordes of alien bugs. Lots of customisation options in terms of power armor types and weapons with which to wage your one-man war, but the game's signature feature was the fluid movement of the character. The power armors came with a jetpack which allowed the player to zoom through the levels horizontally and vertically, and many of the levels were in fact designed with vast height differences in mind. The most vivid memory I have of the game in fact is a level set in a crashed space cruiser, where all the long corridors have now turned into tall shafts to navigate thanks to the position the cruiser hit the planet.

My school-years best friend had this game and I often borrowed it from him, and it became a little bit of our shared mini-obsession. Even at the time I didn't think it was anywhere near flawless - the difficulty is really unbalanced - but there was something in it that captivated our interest and imaginations. And in 2025, it's just another random late-90s PC game that's been largely forgotten. At least it has a GOG page.

Drakan: Order of the Flame (1999) - much like the opening post example of Kameo, I feel like this should be remembered more by furries in particular. You pilot a huge talking dragon, both in levels dedicated to dragon-to-dragon combat and in some of the larger levels as a transport method between the main gameplay sections. When you're not flying with your dragon BFF, the game is a pretty bog-standard late 90s 3rd person action title, but in that cosy kind of fashion that makes it still enjoyable to play. Or made it, anyway. Back in the day I didn't have as many games as I do now so whatever I had, I replayed through several times regardless of quality, so I don't really want to say for certain that Drakan was a particularly good game. But it had cool dragons.

The Riddle of Master Lu (1995) - OK so the first two titles I've seen mentioned once or twice in the past decade by other people, but this one sometimes feels like a complete fever dream only I conjured up because I've never seen it come up in any kind of retrospectives or genre history articles. It's a click-n-point adventure game from the mid-1990s based on the Ripley's Believe It or Not franchise: you control Mr Ripley himself as you try and track down an ancient artifact, like a store own brand Indiana Jones but with less whipping and nazis, and in-between you get to do your classic Ripley doodles and pick up lesser artifacts to take back to your Ripley museum. The graphics were based on digitised IRL actors so it's got that crunchy 90s FMV feel. The main thing I remember from this is how dang tricky it was. I was obsessed with click n point adventures around this period and even with my non-native English skills I could usually make good headway (and even complete) most of the titles I owned. I never made it very far in Riddle of Master Lu because the puzzles simply felt so obscure or difficult, and I remember how much that frustrated me because I simply wanted to continue. I've wanted for years to play it again to see if my big adult brain can now breeze through it, but as far as I can tell it's complete abandonware now and trying to get it working on a modern PC is a real faff.

Honestly there are probably a handful of other titles that I could namecheck as well, because as someone who was a PC-only gamer in the mid-late 1990s it feels like a massive amount of gaming history (and particularly all these mid-budget AA titles) has just been completely lost these days thanks to the console-dominated discourse.
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1990s PC gaming is something that's lost even to my generation (I'm 36). I had simcity and lemmings and secret of monkey island, but anything deeper than that was already lost to time for me as consoles became predominant. I did play a few text adventures back in the day: Zork, Hitchhiker's Guide, etc, but besides that my early PC gaming was largely relegated to pre-installed games or stuff I'd run off a CD. By the time I had a PC powerful enough to run anything, I was mainly using it to play Everquest or running SNES emulators.
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Flint wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:41 am There's a couple of examples that often come to my mind when I think about my own gaming journey and feel like no one else took certain paths.
this was such a interesting read as well!!! tysm for sharing!

i swear ive seen the first one listed, outwars. i was born to a gamer dad with a gamer friend who owned a independent gamer rental store in 1999, so it mightve been something i saw in passing when i was very small which, if true, is a crazy coincidence!

i agree w/ your last statement too (i hope i read it right, its 3 am my time at time of posting), i think a lot of the games here will be console games because so much stuff is just lost to time and unsupported OS. i think if i wanted to delve deep into pc games that no one remembers, i would start thinking about the older games i played on bigfishgames.com in like 2006 (maybe not the same era most people in here will be from? we will see haha//). im talking mystery case files: ravenhearst (2006), Azada (2008)(VERY HAPPY to see this on steam for 10$ though!), Alice greenfingers (2007), etc etc etc. maybe not as niche as i think in the greater space on the internet, but these are all things ive never ever ever ever seen even mentioned in my greater circles online and offline.
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Star Soldier: Vanishing Earth.

One of the few instances of a shmup on the system thats just as solid as the rest of the series. It is also one of the N64 games that refuses to sound bad

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SWZTCH wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:57 am i agree w/ your last statement too (i hope i read it right, its 3 am my time at time of posting), i think a lot of the games here will be console games because so much stuff is just lost to time and unsupported OS.
That's definitely part of the issue - if a game hasn't been re-released one way or another, getting these things to work is a lot more of a headache than simply plopping an old cartridge in an old console. GOG has done incredible conservation work over the years to make a massive amount of old PC titles, including many largely forgotten ones, available and playable on modern computers but of course their ability to do so is limited - there's some real classics missing from their site thanks to convoluted rights issues etc.

But the main point I haphazardly plonked out was how console gaming simply dominates gaming as a whole when it comes to gaming media these days. When 1980s/1990s in gaming is discussed it's always N64, PS1, Dreamcast, Mega Drive, SNES etc - that's the source material for all the video essays, retrospectives, "best forgotten games" listicles, etc. In the process a lot of PC gaming history has ended up being stifled and titles that I grew up knowing as classics or gaming 101 material have basically been all but lost. A great recent example of this has been the phenomenal (and still ongoing) Ultima series retrospective by Majular: it's a franchise that can claim the credit for literally creating RPGs, MMOs and immersive sims (among many smaller game design traits now considered baseline), but you look at the comments for each video and you see so many people either saying they had never heard of this series before, or lamenting the fact that Majular's series is like only the second proper retrospective such a legendary series has ever had. This isn't me dunking on console games (I've owned a bunch!) or anyone who doesn't know ins and outs of random PC games from several decades ago because that's totally fair; I just often feel like a lot of the games I grew up playing are a lot more obscure than they should be because of how console-dominant gaming history discussion has become.

Sorry for the super topic derail btw!
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Flint wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:16 am Sorry for the super topic derail btw!
no worries! i think this is still very relevant. im excited to see if this thread ends up console or pc leaning now that i have this in mind! kinda hoping to see more niche random pre-2000s pc games too now haha// everything everyone has put so far has been so cool!!!! hellyesnailedit
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Flint, have you ever checked out myabandonware? There's a lot of classic PC titles preserved on there, as well as some really obscure and janky stuff. A surprising amount of text adventures and proto-GUI stuff.
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Beancatte wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:13 am Star Soldier: Vanishing Earth.
whoa thanks for sharing!!! got back on my pc to listen to this and do a little investigating, the gameplay looks really fun too!!

is it normal to reply to everyone posting in a topic? im actually just really enthusiastic haha// i love dialogue!!
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Cayman wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:22 am Flint, have you ever checked out myabandonware? There's a lot of classic PC titles preserved on there, as well as some really obscure and janky stuff. A surprising amount of text adventures and proto-GUI stuff.
Yeah, I sometimes bump into this site when I'm trying to track down something retro that isn't available on GOG. Been a great boon at times (I had a pandemic project of binging a bunch of old click 'n' points and this helped a lot) but of course sometimes they can require quite a bit of work to get it running. To use one of my own examples, I did actually bump into Riddle of Master Lu there but could never get it working with the limited advice available on the internet.

It's a fantastic site though and definitely good to bring up in this topic!
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Flint wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:38 am
Cayman wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:22 am Flint, have you ever checked out myabandonware? There's a lot of classic PC titles preserved on there, as well as some really obscure and janky stuff. A surprising amount of text adventures and proto-GUI stuff.
Yeah, I sometimes bump into this site when I'm trying to track down something retro that isn't available on GOG. Been a great boon at times (I had a pandemic project of binging a bunch of old click 'n' points and this helped a lot) but of course sometimes they can require quite a bit of work to get it running. To use one of my own examples, I did actually bump into Riddle of Master Lu there but could never get it working with the limited advice available on the internet.

It's a fantastic site though and definitely good to bring up in this topic!
I'll have to check out GOG more, I've never really used it. My focus of "preservation" is more on the PS2/Dreamcast/Gamecube era. I was always a console gamer--still am--and it's astounding how many games were published, burnt to disc, distributed, and lost to landfills.
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Cayman wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:42 am
Flint wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:38 am
Cayman wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:22 am Flint, have you ever checked out myabandonware? There's a lot of classic PC titles preserved on there, as well as some really obscure and janky stuff. A surprising amount of text adventures and proto-GUI stuff.
Yeah, I sometimes bump into this site when I'm trying to track down something retro that isn't available on GOG. Been a great boon at times (I had a pandemic project of binging a bunch of old click 'n' points and this helped a lot) but of course sometimes they can require quite a bit of work to get it running. To use one of my own examples, I did actually bump into Riddle of Master Lu there but could never get it working with the limited advice available on the internet.

It's a fantastic site though and definitely good to bring up in this topic!
I'll have to check out GOG more, I've never really used it. My focus of "preservation" is more on the PS2/Dreamcast/Gamecube era. I was always a console gamer--still am--and it's astounding how many games were published, burnt to disc, distributed, and lost to landfills.
GOG is a really excellent service if you ever do want to explore old PC games. Whilst it now also offers modern games, it originally started as a way to preserve PC gaming history by offering old PC games which their team had fixed so that you could just run the exe and it works straight "out of the box" on modern PCs - you get manual scans etc too which for some of these old games is a must. They tend to come pretty cheap too so it's not a bad shout to throw a few currency units their way to keep the good thing going, and they listen to their userbase by seeking out even some completely obscure titles if someone out there wants it. Whether they then list it or not mainly tends to depend on whether they can get the rights for it - e.g. one of the most requested games for years has been No One Lives Forever (classic) but the rights for it is such an incoherent kudzu maze that they can't do anything about it.

I've played with both PCs and consoles throughout my life but between Mega Drive and GameCube I was basically a PC-exclusive guy, so a lot of my personal gaming nostalgia is strictly restricted to the beige box and sites like GOG, Abandonia, MyAbandonWare etc have been a mainstay in helping me revisit some of the titles I grew up playing.
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Okay, whenever someone asks me "What is a niche game you obsess over?"
this, does anyone remember this masterpiece omfg.
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HakariSquish wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:09 am Okay, whenever someone asks me "What is a niche game you obsess over?"
this, does anyone remember this masterpiece omfg.
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god, I remember spending an embarrassing amount of time in Shining Soul II for the GBA

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it's a hack'n'slash game where you can play as either a wolf man or a dragon man. the wolf man in particular also gets a passive skill where his HP regenerate over time, which is *really* good

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JarylGaren wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:15 am god, I remember spending an embarrassing amount of time in Shining Soul II for the GBA

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it's a hack'n'slash game where you can play as either a wolf man or a dragon man. the wolf man in particular also gets a passive skill where his HP regenerate over time, which is *really* good

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My pick for "90's PC game mostly forgotten to time" is Hardwar, an Elite-type 'space' sim set in a series of crater cities on Titan after everything's gone to shit and corporations and gangs scrounge to survive. They got The Designer's Republic and Warp Records on board for art and music, so if you're a Wipeout fan you'll feel right at home.

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Space Colony!

As a general dork for simulation and management games, this is one that seemingly flew under a lot of folks radars. It was good fun though, and I played an awful lot of it back in the day. (And then some more when it was re-released via GOG a little while back.)
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